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Friday, 24 October 2008

autism first by autotelic

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jillian

|2008-12-24 05:57:27

it always comes down to this, doesn't it? But when your instincts constantly
remind you that the cure is worse than the disease, all you can do is bear the
burden of life, surely the faithful will flee, and you'll be left alone, once
again, to face off with yourself, and the only comforting thought is that you
still aren't willing to conform, cause you know that even the slightest amount
of adaptation will make you feel even more uncomfortable about this existence
that you never signed up for in the first place.

Anna - Being evicted from one's own Soul

|2008-12-24 12:49:09

This image captures the nightmarish dimensions of the problem as the intimate
personal doorway to the Self one has tentatively agreed to open and share
within the relationship starts to be viewed by the other as a convenient portal
through which to facilitate the industrial transformation of one's inner
furnishings and space to a more familiar design and layout of their own.

FN	\|2008-12-24 14:32:07

people love being lied to, in a world that is hopelessly, hopelessly fucked, the
slightest amount of adaptation, in order to make another person feel ok about
this existence is just going to make you even more aware of how denial is the
only tool to keep a relationship going. When A Utopian has a love affair with
The Town Crier, you can fully expect that there will be a major philosophical
battle once the euphoria wears off.

doesn't matter - blinded by the light

|2008-12-24 15:34:10

and the Doctor said
"macular degeneration"

silent night
silent
nothing
silence is sacred

Bjorn

|2008-12-24 21:56:19

On the denial front , the healer mom who answered my ad just countered what I
said about my upbringing in kids homes by saying her family background was
unhappy because her mother was autistic. This is starting to conform to the
script from hell.....

autotelic

|2008-12-25 02:16:25

I am here to observe and document human suffering. I am not here to
propagate the species. Instead of viewing my nature as flawed, I have
finally realized that I just don't want to participate in all those
human activities that are supposed to make people happy, because anytime I
try my entire being starts to rebel, and I feel very unnatural. I've
been addressing the issues of conformity, obedience, deference and demeanor
for the last 25 years, and as a 40 year old woman I look back
and realize that what I have mostly seen is that people have utter contempt for free will, they don't even realize that
it's their birthright, and that participation in all these prison
like agreements with society and others is completely optional. But I
understand that winning friends and influencing people is what really
matters to most humans, even if they get trapped, and even if they
don't know how to cultivate the freedom to start finding out how they
really feel about all the sacrifices they made to keep
quasi-validatimg members of the clan around.

It's a
socially acceptable form of insanity, and guess what? Those that
travel the well trodden path often aren't very happy. They're the ones
that often say, "I don't know what's wrong, but things just don't
feel right. I'm not even sure I know who I am or what I believe anymore.
Maybe I'm having a bit of an identity crisis. I certainly don't want
to trouble my husband with any of these thoughts. I'm sure it's nothing
serious. It's probably just the season, damn you winter! I can't
wait for spring. Things will start to look up when we get a little more
sunlight. Anyway, I have no room in my head for bad thoughts.
Would you like a warm cup of tea?"

angie - determinism

|2008-12-25 04:31:12

Or they just have bad thoughts , lace the tea with strychnine and then tell the
cops they didnt know what they were thinking and hope for a diminished
responsibility plea .....

frank

|2008-12-25 04:30:46

We have Free Will but our lives are ruled by bad habits and terrible choices.

anna	\|2008-12-25 04:55:50

I've learned that I'm not really social material as I find it incredibly
difficult to even motivate myself to attempt the level of demeanour and
deference necessary for blending in that other people seem to natural excel at.
I also suspect Free Will is a bit of an illusion but to the extent we can
exercise it I dont think its really encouraged by society as the overwhelming
social imperative seems to be to conform.

Anonymous

|2008-12-25 06:58:28

i was just talking about having the free will to say no over and over again to
things that aren't designed to produce happiness.

anna	\|2008-12-25 07:39:28

"I was just talking about having the free will to say no over and over
again to
things that aren't designed to produce happiness."

That's my
idea of free will too.

admin1 - posting

|2008-12-25 14:28:42

Hey ' Doesnt Matter' if you are going to post your latest ailments here could
you at least try to present them as philosophical problems or insightful
reflections on the human condition?

Thanks

Sy	\|2008-12-26 02:35:47

I have a problem with processing incoming demands - I simply dont want to.

k	\|2008-12-26 05:41:05

and it's always so pointless for someone to say that you're copping out when you
don't want to process their incoming demands.......

cop out or not, I feel
pretty good about saying no to incoming demands.

Limited availability helps
to preserve our energy and strength, and I think it keeps us fresh and sharp for
the times that we do happen to be present and available for human
interaction.

Cause God knows that if we're always available, people will
request that we change.

Sy	\|2008-12-26 13:44:44

The culture also puts pressure on people to abandon their autonomy and
availability to themselves . Not so long ago non compliance and idle
reproductive capacity would have risked a charge of witchcraft. Nowadays the
subtle threats of ex communication are still there. We turn our back on the Holy
Family at our own peril...

Anonymous

|2008-12-26 14:54:23

and I forgot to say that if we choose to be available in a limited way people
will also request that we change.

it doesn't matter

|2008-12-26 21:26:20

The potential degeneration of vision saddens me.
I will cope. We all will be
afflicted with some
medical condition sooner or later. It seems the
elderly
are kept "out of sight out of mind."
Silence rather than whining about
this seems
a more mature approach...that and lots of carrot juice.

Brett

|2008-12-27 01:15:57

Maybe you should meditate on fortitude while your ailments remain at the
potential stage...

Anna	\|2008-12-27 01:16:38

We have a duty to be ourselves its not always easy but its a stroll in the park
compared to constantly trying to live up to other peoples expectations of who we
should be..

Elena

|2008-12-27 15:56:47

There is a trade off between autonomy and incoming demands at the start of a
relationship but after a certain point diminishing returns kick in with a
vengeance as the loss of finite autonomy - and therefore self - accumulates
before a near constant and potentially infinte barrage of incoming demands.

Dr Zack

|2008-12-27 23:08:56

Appeal to a higher power - science ! and get your DNA checked out for
compatbility .

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