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THe Tribe Member That Got Away

|2008-12-29 02:03:43

this must be another example of how so many people can't live without
faith, utopian ideology freaks the fuck out of me, talk about impossible standards, and totally unrealistic expectations of
human nature, so many people that venture out to create
intentional communities completely unravel when they discover that
human beings have limitations.

Anna	\|2008-12-29 02:04:12

The thing is to be able to distinguish between a vision and delusion.

Chaz	\|2008-12-29 02:21:08

The key individuals behind such communities are often incredibly controlling
but the real spooky aspect is the sheer number of people who are happy to give
up their free will to belong to the tribe.

Vinny

|2008-12-29 02:24:14

Have you guys ever met a star seed? Have any of you ever dated someone with a
messiah complex?

Red-But Not That Red!

|2008-12-29 02:29:48

Autonomy is a part of human evolution....but it's no use exercising any kind of
logic with people that are always making reference to history that pre-dates the
last 5000 years.

Anna	\|2008-12-29 02:31:12

I've never met a Star Seed but I would like to know what they consider to be
good enough proof to convince others of their status.

Anna	\|2008-12-29 02:46:41

Autonomy has evolved as a desirable human trait but so have the strategies of
individuals and groups who view autonomy as a threat.

autotelic

|2008-12-29 02:50:18

It's the people of faith, any kind of faith, that are having severe psychotic
meltdowns now.......everything that's happening now on the planet is
invalidating faith, and people just can't escape so easily from life
anymore.

I can get through life without faith. I never counted on it as a
crutch in the first place. I'm comfortable without faith. I can laugh without
faith, and I will continue to navigate without faith.

jillian

|2008-12-29 05:36:25

did someone here have some kind of problem joining that pesky organism
called 'the group'?

wtf happened?

was someone here exposed to the
inner workings of fringy cult activity?

did someone here destroy
the faith, only to discover that startling psychotic behavior
systematically reveals itself anytime faith in the goodness
of humankind is questioned.

did a non-believer trigger terrible
rage in a believer?

Karen - no apologies

|2008-12-29 06:24:27

jillian, some of us will rattle other people's faith just by being
ourselves, and it just goes to show how shaky and unstable faith can be for
so many. I never try to covet the beliefs that others possess, but
because I choose not to prescribe to "man made" laws of
the universe, which are fundamentally flawed, and not in MY best interest, I'm viewed as a bit of a spoiler, or a party pooper. And it's really
intense to witness the horrific mess that always unfolds when
community ideals start to fall short of their original expectations, because faith tested can and does bring out psychosis in its members, and when visions of utopia start to crumble, it's very difficult to watch
people lose their sense of belonging, especially if they don't
know how to be on their own......most people don't know how to be on
their own, but we live in a society that requires that we adapt, not to the community, but
to our own aloneness. This is one of the first things that my instincts taught me to learn in
life, and it turned out to be the most useful tool that I possess.

Yes,
I suffer from my own forms of neurosis, but people that strongly
believe in utopian ideals suffer from a type of psychosis that scares the
living daylights out of me!

PhilMcGiven - I lost my baby to a Cult

|2008-12-29 10:31:10

It's incredibly difficult to read this as I lost my childhood sweetheart to a similar type of Cult/Sect back in the
mid 90's. It started out innocently enough with Reena hanging out with some chick at
work who was into Crop Circles , Tarot and UFO's but man it escalated
so fucking quickly into an out-take from a bad Zombie movie when this guy
named Krispin started to dominate the scene .Like, Reena started
donating her wages to the 'family' then she started sleeping with the creep
and his cohorts up at some big house he ran saying it was somehow part
of her religious mission in life and that I should not be so uptight and
count it as her handing out blessings.
They were into group sex and
using sex to ensnare people into the group. At one point Reena told me that
Krispin had asked her to blow this guy old enough to be
her grandfather to settle a debt and he's somehow convinced her that
it was part of the Divine Plan!!!!!

I called the cops when they cut
all her hair off but they said there was nothing I could do as Reena had entered the commune of her own
Free Will and wanted to stay there. The cops let me speak to Reena for a couple of minutes and she came out
in some saffron robe and told me how deleriously happy she was and it
was not too late for our engagement if I just tried a bit harder to
belong and all the time that sly motherfucker Krispin was keeping his eye
on her from the window. I pointed this out to one of the cops and he
just said, ' Sir, the young lady seems happy enough to me , if anyone has
belief problems here its YOU and if we catch you on this
property again you are going to jail.' I saw Reena a couple of times
after that banging a tamborine for Rael in the local mall but then even her
parents wouldnt talk to me saying that they were fed up of me trying
to undermine their daughters happiness and how my badgering was interfering
with their relationship with Reena and the family too. It took years
on a Buddist Retreat to free myself from the emotional trauma , it really
did. Take it from me , Cults suck.

Juno - Faith is Circular

|2008-12-29 10:54:50

The problem with Faith is that those who peddle it dictate the type of questions
believers can ask of it from the outset by use and abuse of argument and once
people become convinced that they enjoy an ongoing special relationship to the
Godhead or Planet they are practically lost to reason as any serious
questioning of their Faith by non-believers ( even those they are aggressively
trying to convert ) is perceived as a direct attack on their experience .

Dr Zack - Largescale Psychosis

|2008-12-29 11:08:48

Faith is wishful thinking. Unfortunately its not always harmless wishful
thinking and as we move into 2009 most of the ongoing conflicts around the
world from the Middle East to Africa and Asia are still driven by religious
hatred. Faith has a lot to answer for.

Sy - Blind Faith is Stupidity

|2008-12-29 11:41:39

I saw this item today that kinda clinches it for me:

Quote:

Earlier this year, a Belgian woman revealed she had invented her tale of
survival as a Jewish girl searching for her parents with a pack of wolves
in Nazi-occupied Europe.

Skepticism is a really healthy outlook.

Angie

|2008-12-29 13:12:28

This stuff is adaptive and promoted to seperate women from the general
population and culture to reproduce under conditions a lot more favourable to
smart but otherwise low status males .

Jonathan - Cursing the Blessed!

|2008-12-29 13:10:40

I dont believe this! You are demonising alternative individuals and their
lifestyles and communities at a time when it is your individualism, chaotic
lifestyles and dystopian sense of community that really need to be under the
spotlight.

My wife and I live a perfectly happy life with our 4 children in
a self sustaining religious farming community in Colorado .We are not into group
sex or even group think and we positively contribute to the local community and
economy and use only what we need . Our children lead happy healthy lives free
from the crime , fears and stresses children are exposed to in mainstream
society. We all have a highly developed sense of self within the community and a
shared unwavering belief in Jesus Christ as our Saviour and Deliverer in these
End Times.

Anonymous

|2008-12-29 16:01:51

Jonathan, many of us here do serve others, during the day, through the work
we do, we are not completely devoid of social animal qualities.

But if evolution has taught us anything it's this: people need space!

Most people aren't capable of putting themselves into a situation like
yours and making it work, and that's one of the reasons why
divorce rates are so high.

And the healthiest way to deal with others when making contracts and
agreements is to recognize limitations, instead of demanding that
people overcome them.

Most utopian types are repulsed by the imperfections of humanity, and
they will always seek a perfect world with people that they
believe are capable of being programmed into perfection, and they will
never admit that the prehistoric tribes that they have studied and idolized
for so long were also very human.

Rational Boy

|2008-12-29 16:27:23

This is one of the most alarming blogs that you guys have ever written, far more
daunting than any of the earlier "suicide is the answer" blogs that you
once wrote about in such a compelling way. In other words, the extremes that
people will go to to avoid thinking about suicidal ideation can be so
destructive, people behaving as gods, delusions of grandeur, star seeds here to
save humanity from its humanness, the great disdain that some have for their own
mortality can certainly be defined as insane.

The most important part of
being human is meeting others where they're at, it's the most honest,
non-threatening way to make authentic connections.

Anonymous

|2008-12-29 16:39:39

Most utopians would agree: socially acceptable insanity makes the world go
round, but the solutions that they propose are bound to disappoint, especially
since we no longer have the resources to save the world. How much more proof do
we need?

Sustainable living? For how much longer? Some utopian idealogues
are now adapting their mantra by saying "we seek the best quality life given
the short amount of time that we have left here."

bjorn - the sun in the sand

|2008-12-29 22:35:12

This afternoon I visited a friend on the local psychiatric ward and she asked me
to sit in on an art session with her. The facilitator asked what she was going
to draw and she said ' Depression ' and proceeded to paint her hand black and
daub it on the page in a very primal way. Then she added large red blobs in the
centre of her palm prints and started to talk about how this represented
stigmata and the suffering of Jesus and mankind.

The patient on my right , a
quiet middle aged mixed race woman, painted a picture of a large all seeing eye
and the woman sitting opposite me painted a picture of a blue horse but couldnt
decide whether it required a rider or should be free.

The facilitator made
awkward arty comments , probably because I was there , but it struck me that
when people are pared back to the bone they dont revert back to any first law of
consciousness or the philosphical sophistry of workshop gurus they focus on the
sheer fucking difficulty of living and you wonder how the psychotic will be
accomodated within the utopian communities these guys expect us to corral
ourselves in to accomodate their delusions. You know, my ex-longterm shrink
once chided, you are too critical, you contaminate any environment you are in.
It's not just real death people fear its any symbolic representation of it, its
not about making authentic connections, it seems to be all about saving fucking
face.

Frank - Hippies need to get mugged more often

|2008-12-30 00:37:50

The Utopians really need to experience the constant acidic dripfeed of
disappointment as their moral optimism and unquestioning belief in their grand
social engineering projects is just so much projection.

The Transitional Woman

|2008-12-30 06:44:47

well said Frank! Your quote is a keeper. Hippies and punks don't dance well
together.

Anyway, the person that inspired this blog contacted me today to
tell me that I do have faith, faith in myself, and he finds that inspiring, and
he finally admitted that not every woman is designed to pop out a couple of eco
conscious kids, home school the kids, grow her own food, and dedicate her
entire life to making him feel like king. (I just don't need to belong in that
kind of way)
He asked me what's next for me in terms of relationships, and I
said that I might have a few more love affairs before I die, with men that are
confirmed bachelors, men that don't want to pass on their genetic material, men
that like their space, men that don't want to co-habitate, but still have real
appreciation for the company of a compassionate female companion from time to
time.
And he replied by saying, "that's a real valuable contribution to
community." And he meant it.

All's well that ends well.

(He doesn't
know about this web site, so he will never read this, and even if he googles my
name he won't find it....he had a hard enough time trying to process the saint
karen site.......which doesn't link back to this site)

jillian

|2008-12-30 07:05:10

marriage always sounds like the worst alternative when it comes to choices,
did he give you a chance to talk about how many women (even the
silent ones) are allergic to the oppression of wife trauma?

Has he ever read a book written by a woman?

vinny - sixth and B

|2008-12-30 07:37:38

I'm a confirmed bachelor. I've read lots of books written by feminists (the
classics!)
I'm attracted to lesbians. I'm not the kind of guy that fantasizes
about all those earth goddess, tribal belly dancing, ashram divas.

I'm really
into dykes.
Too bad you no longer live on the lower east side.

PS: You don't
need to hide your website from me

TheWrongedMan - Well that answers that doesnt it!

|2008-12-30 13:09:26

It really wasnt that difficult to stumble across this website it didnt take any
great technical prowess you simply forget to delete the history trail from the
browser cache after you used my PC to Google ' utopian communities , 'eating
disorders' and 'hot fucking chicks in Albuquerque' behind my back and talking of
disappointed , you know what, I really am.

What troubles me most though is
the way you have depicted me as some spitting fanatical Patriarch.

I need to
meditate on this a while and consider my options as kneejerk responses give me
digestion problems.

Elan - The Transitional Woman as Substitute Zen Master

|2008-12-30 13:04:56

@TheWrongedMan

I've been in your shoes buddy but try to see it less as a
betrayal and more as hard won progress up the bi-polar learning curve and a
licence to bulshit and fuck chicks without the inconvenience of kids, long term
committment and domestic living death.

MarinCountyHealer - Fighting the Straight Corner

|2008-12-30 14:03:34

In terms of feminine identity I'm a regular suburban mom with Christian leanings
and proud of my humble achievements but your vicious and relentless all out
assault on the family values I hold to be dear and true and place great faith in
for myself, my partner and our kids has really made me understand that we now
have to defend our values and way of life against people like you. I dont know
what you represent but it isnt anything I want or most ordinary women aspire to
or stand for. I dont see anything remotely liberational in your grim outlook and
I grew up with the womens rights movement and other progressive and communal
developments in the Bay Area in the 60's so Sister I know what I'm talking
about.The pendulum has swung way too far towards personal anti-social freedoms
and its time for the silent majority to stand up for mainstream civilised
society before it completely vanishes..

Combat Boots and Short Hair - i'm ok-you're ok

|2008-12-30 15:48:16

obviously you haven't talked to women about how they really feel, deep down
inside, when no ones looking or listening, not everyone has the
desire to belong in such an absolute way, some of these natural laws
of being just don't make any kind of logical sense to some of us.
Try to
lighten up, why is irony so threatening to so many? This is comic
relief laden with life lessons. I have no regrets about the choices I've
made.

The guy even told me that I need to find someone from my own
subculture, and I told him that he needs to find a woman like you (an
unconditionally maternal type)

To The Wronged Man: You're lying. You could be the pesky hacker that
sniffs around this place using a proxy server. I cover my tracks, and
I never used his PC. If you don't like the content of this website,
you're more than welcome to come out and say so.

TheWrongedMan

|2008-12-30 16:24:22

OK, you got me but rest assured its not me sniffing around this site behind a
proxy server but I'm sure you've made enough enemies to have a growing list of
potential suspects of who it might be. From what I can see there is no shortage
of people prepared to stand up to you guys and your negative and disruptive
mindset.

FlickrVisitor - Uncondittional Support

|2008-12-30 16:57:51

Your lifestyle choices seem well thought through ,realistic and principled
enough to me but I can also understand why people like the angry surburban
soccer mom and the neurotic aging hippies feel threatened by your outspokeness
and doing your own thing. Most folk require other people to tell them what to
think and do, they dont want to engage in any form of risky social interaction.
They want to inhabit a safe and predictable social realm.

I like the site
artwork too. It's pretty wild.

feedback Loop

|2008-12-30 17:14:43

here's the kicker: my job allows me to be a walking pollster. I collect secret
confessions from a wide range of people on a daily basis. My conclusions are
informed. Many people living within the vacuum of the family go out of their
way to avoid really getting to know the public, they're too busy keeping the
family dynamic together, maybe they read the paper or watch the news, but they
don't have the time to get to know the secret thoughts of public.

Adam - re - The Feedback Loop

|2008-12-30 21:54:45

Even where irrefutable evidence or damning information about a problem is already widely available in a low key way and being whispered between
people at street level few are prepared to openly question unless and until it becomes socially
acceptable to do so as human beings in large numbers are morally
vaccuous and are prepared to put up with whatever horror we inflict on
each other as long as it protects us from the threat of losing face.

admin - navigating the psychological terror landscape

|2008-12-31 02:06:34

a song to help drown out the screams

https://www.yolatengo.com/audio/from_a_motel6.mp3

jillian

|2008-12-31 03:59:48

suddenly, I realize something, all these people that get themselves into crazy
contracts with others want us to take life more seriously.

k	\|2008-12-31 04:54:06

and I'm already looking forward to my next love affair....I'll keep my eyes open
for a guy like Vinny.

Troubadour

|2008-12-31 05:27:33

the admin said:

"human beings in large numbers are morally
vaccuous and are prepared
to put up with whatever horror we inflict on
each other as long as it
protects us from the threat of losing face."

He's making reference to "love" relationships that people enter
into freely, he's not talking about war, though if you were to
read this out of context, it sounds like war.

It's easy to see why
so many people are always looking forward to their next affair of the
heart. Count me in.

Jillian

|2008-12-31 05:32:39

UH OH! Do you realize that we have gotten back to the endless search for that
last great fuck? (it's just a metaphor)
I'm guessing that most people that are
already in relationships are still looking for that last great fuck. Marriage
doesn't sound like a very good solution to the problem.

Sy - omerta - the vow of silence

|2008-12-31 07:15:40

marriage is an obstacle to the solution, its quite literally deferred vision

Frank

|2008-12-31 07:19:14

life has a way of shrugging off any attempt we make to take it seriously and the
more serious the attempt the more hilarious the outcome. i mean, if you werent
human you'd have a hoot of a time at funerals....

Admin - Affairs of the Heart

|2008-12-31 07:20:34

That's kind of sealed the deal with the next pic, the wife and happy hooker it
is!

karen

|2008-12-31 16:01:20

The resolution to the problem is to avoid marriage, (Sy said it perfectly),
if I wasn't so willful, and in touch with my own voice, I might have
been brainwashed into thinking that I was fucking with destiny by opting
out.

I was just left with the question of: "why should I share my life with
someone that isn't even part of my audience?"

He didn't understand my music, and he couldn't see the value in any of
my paintings. (I had to tell him that Art Brut is just as important
folk art.)

I'm not saying that I'm adverse to taking risks, but I
think it's very unwise to get knee deep in this stuff with someone that has
an entirely different vision.

Jillian

|2008-12-31 17:38:55

I've never been able to get intimate with anyone that wanted me to change.
These are the words you want to hear, "I love you just the way you are."
You don't want to hear, "I see that you have incredible potential to make
me a very happy man, if you just tweak a few things here and there." When
The Great Makeover Project is orchestrated by someone other than yourself, deep
resentment begins to fester, for both parties.

Vinny sounds like an easy guy
to work with, maybe he's a lesbian trapped inside a man's body. What more could
you ask for?

Lysistrata

|2009-01-01 02:18:52

remove the availability of female sex on demand from the equation and the
relationship soon becomes a pit of resentment .

vinny

|2009-01-01 02:20:26

I've never been shy on this board before, but I feel a little shy now. I
avoided coming back to this post for 2 days now because I thought someone might
get annoyed with my lesbian comment, glad to see that's not the case.

I
forgot to mention that I especially like women that look and act like lesbians,
but that aren't really lesbians.

You're a refreshing bunch of people to
converse with.

Happy New Year.

frank - dont you ever wish she'd just shut the fuck up ?

|2009-01-01 13:59:54

I just seem to meet women who want to talk to me and hey conversation is way up
there on my list of things I love doing but endless relational analysis is no
substitute for getting regally laid. Communication is killing my sex life!

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